Comments on: Precise dog food http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/ Dog Food Reviews - Get unbiased information. Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:21:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Antonio http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/comment-page-3/#comment-23640 Antonio Sun, 16 Jan 2011 02:18:10 +0000 http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/#comment-23640 fooless = foolish or crazy fooless = foolish or crazy

]]> By: Antonio http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/comment-page-3/#comment-23639 Antonio Sun, 16 Jan 2011 02:17:16 +0000 http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/#comment-23639 LOL, well you know me, i'm a analyst by trade, so I like to fully analyze any subject matter and present both sides of any particular topic to give a viewer the option to make a choice based on complete instead of partial information. One thing I noticed when I searched on the Dick Van Patten vegetarian diets, THEY ARE EXPENSIVE, which is kind of kind of fooless since I'm certain a dog food lacking meat in the USA would be much cheaper to manufacture. LOL, well you know me, i’m a analyst by trade, so I like to fully analyze any subject matter and present both sides of any particular topic to give a viewer the option to make a choice based on complete instead of partial information. One thing I noticed when I searched on the Dick Van Patten vegetarian diets, THEY ARE EXPENSIVE, which is kind of kind of fooless since I’m certain a dog food lacking meat in the USA would be much cheaper to manufacture.

]]> By: Jess http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/comment-page-3/#comment-23637 Jess Sun, 16 Jan 2011 02:09:07 +0000 http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/#comment-23637 I know ya do, you just like to rock the boat a little, LOL. Vegetarian and Vegan Products While I do realize that some people may have personal, ethical reasons for wanting to feed their dogs a vegetarian or even vegan diet, it is my opinion that unless a specific health condition prevents a dog from eating meat, it should not be withheld. Nevertheless, vegetarian and vegan commercial foods can be useful where an allergic dog can not tolerate common sources of animal protein or fat, since the owner can add specific canned or fresh meat types and has control over the amount added. I do not recommend feeding normal, healthy, adult dogs a diet exclusively if it contains less than 23% protein. See my articles on protein here and here . http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=vegetarian_vegan I know ya do, you just like to rock the boat a little, LOL.

Vegetarian and Vegan Products

While I do realize that some people may have personal, ethical reasons for wanting to feed their dogs a vegetarian or even vegan diet, it is my opinion that unless a specific health condition prevents a dog from eating meat, it should not be withheld.

Nevertheless, vegetarian and vegan commercial foods can be useful where an allergic dog can not tolerate common sources of animal protein or fat, since the owner can add specific canned or fresh meat types and has control over the amount added.

I do not recommend feeding normal, healthy, adult dogs a diet exclusively if it contains less than 23% protein. See my articles on protein here and here .

http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=vegetarian_vegan

]]> By: Antonio http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/comment-page-3/#comment-23632 Antonio Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:01:50 +0000 http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/#comment-23632 I agree, and you know I believe in meat protein as well, as I've saw the results w/ canine training. The meat protein proves highly digestible and helps w/ recovery time, but I cook my dogs meat before I give it to them. I don't think raw is a problem, it's just didn't work when I tried it w/ my boys. I agree, and you know I believe in meat protein as well, as I’ve saw the results w/ canine training. The meat protein proves highly digestible and helps w/ recovery time, but I cook my dogs meat before I give it to them. I don’t think raw is a problem, it’s just didn’t work when I tried it w/ my boys.

]]> By: Jess http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/comment-page-2/#comment-23628 Jess Sun, 16 Jan 2011 00:25:33 +0000 http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/#comment-23628 I have never found any research stating a dog should NOT eat meat. Maybe some super green tree loving over the edge vegetarian person might have a opinion stating meat is not good. Tony loves those little baby carrots, but nothing like how eats raw beef or any other meat. Until someone proves to me otherwise I well be a HUGE backer of feeding meat. Now, if I had to feed purnia or a home cooked veggy and brown rice diet,I would surly pick the home cooked meal. So I guess it would matter the dog food. Now would I pick a vegetarian Natural Balance or purnia ?? Glad I don't have to make that choice. I am just into feeding meat to a dog and as you know I put a lot of energy into making sure my dog gets quite a bit of raw meat or cooked chicken in his diet. I have never found any research stating a dog should NOT eat meat. Maybe some super green tree loving over the edge vegetarian person might have a opinion stating meat is not good. Tony loves those little baby carrots, but nothing like how eats raw beef or any other meat. Until someone proves to me otherwise I well be a HUGE backer of feeding meat. Now, if I had to feed purnia or a home cooked veggy and brown rice diet,I would surly pick the home cooked meal. So I guess it would matter the dog food. Now would I pick a vegetarian Natural Balance or purnia ?? Glad I don’t have to make that choice. I am just into feeding meat to a dog and as you know I put a lot of energy into making sure my dog gets quite a bit of raw meat or cooked chicken in his diet.

]]> By: Antonio http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/comment-page-2/#comment-23626 Antonio Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:31:40 +0000 http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/#comment-23626 Jess, don't take the comment personal, I didn't say I agree or otherwise, I just said there is information and research out there to prove both sides of the argument. I mean come on you know Natural Balance has produced that vegetarian formula for years. Do I personally feed my dog a vegetarian diet "NO" I don't. I was just using the internet for research as you've pointed out many times before. Again don't take the posts personal, if you dispute the information then put forth the time/money/research to dispute what others said works for their particular case. I don't personally use the vegetarian dog diet formulas of any variety, but the link provided above show it has had some success for others. The internet can be good and bad, but one should always use caution and take most things they read w/ a grain of salt because most of the information online (this site included) does not contain certified expert advice, it's merely just our opinion and our own personal experience. Anyone can publish Anything online and if it gathers enough following then eventually that messages becomes whatever the author perceives it to be for the viewers. I actually agree with some of the things you publish, as a lot of it is common sense and good info, but I also know how to weed thru the BS and personal opinion to form my own. Look into the link I provided before shooting it down so quickly. I'm not saying feed your dog or any other a vegetable base diet, I'm just asking that you look at the information provided. Jess, don’t take the comment personal, I didn’t say I agree or otherwise, I just said there is information and research out there to prove both sides of the argument. I mean come on you know Natural Balance has produced that vegetarian formula for years. Do I personally feed my dog a vegetarian diet “NO” I don’t. I was just using the internet for research as you’ve pointed out many times before. Again don’t take the posts personal, if you dispute the information then put forth the time/money/research to dispute what others said works for their particular case. I don’t personally use the vegetarian dog diet formulas of any variety, but the link provided above show it has had some success for others. The internet can be good and bad, but one should always use caution and take most things they read w/ a grain of salt because most of the information online (this site included) does not contain certified expert advice, it’s merely just our opinion and our own personal experience. Anyone can publish Anything online and if it gathers enough following then eventually that messages becomes whatever the author perceives it to be for the viewers. I actually agree with some of the things you publish, as a lot of it is common sense and good info, but I also know how to weed thru the BS and personal opinion to form my own. Look into the link I provided before shooting it down so quickly. I’m not saying feed your dog or any other a vegetable base diet, I’m just asking that you look at the information provided.

]]> By: Jess http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/comment-page-2/#comment-23619 Jess Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:39:10 +0000 http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/#comment-23619 I can't believe you just posted that. I hope your dobie uses those MOLERS to grind up your arm. I can’t believe you just posted that. I hope your dobie uses those MOLERS to grind up your arm.

]]> By: Antonio http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/comment-page-2/#comment-23617 Antonio Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:15:36 +0000 http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/#comment-23617 I really don't know if there's a 100% right or wrong answer as to which diet is better for dogs or people for that matter. I've always leaned toward the thought that a diet with more meat was better, but longetivity seems to agree with diets higher in vegetables. So I don't know and I would need to take a lot of time to research this. http://dogsinthenews.com/issues/0209/articles/020918a.htm but there's a link that show does living well into their 20's (human years) eating vegan diets. And remember Natural Balance has plenty of dogs that have eaten their vegetarian formula all their life. So I don't know if there is a right/wrong on the issue with high meat based canine diets b/c science tends to back both arguments for/against the matter. The owner has to know what works best for his/her individual dog(s). I really don’t know if there’s a 100% right or wrong answer as to which diet is better for dogs or people for that matter. I’ve always leaned toward the thought that a diet with more meat was better, but longetivity seems to agree with diets higher in vegetables. So I don’t know and I would need to take a lot of time to research this. http://dogsinthenews.com/issues/0209/articles/020918a.htm but there’s a link that show does living well into their 20′s (human years) eating vegan diets. And remember Natural Balance has plenty of dogs that have eaten their vegetarian formula all their life. So I don’t know if there is a right/wrong on the issue with high meat based canine diets b/c science tends to back both arguments for/against the matter. The owner has to know what works best for his/her individual dog(s).

]]> By: Jess http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/comment-page-2/#comment-23616 Jess Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:10:11 +0000 http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/#comment-23616 Chipp, that's an old school way of thinking. It came about because the dog foods back in the day, were mostly grain and vegetables, which caused these kinds of issue's. Some people are just stuck back in the day. I really love the internet because you can educate yourself on any subject. I see people bad mouthing Orijen and then feed abady or purina. Just look and see how many people think science diet and Royal Canin are top of the line. It really is sad people don't do a little more research. Chipp, that’s an old school way of thinking. It came about because the dog foods back in the day, were mostly grain and vegetables, which caused these kinds of issue’s. Some people are just stuck back in the day. I really love the internet because you can educate yourself on any subject. I see people bad mouthing Orijen and then feed abady or purina. Just look and see how many people think science diet and Royal Canin are top of the line. It really is sad people don’t do a little more research.

]]> By: Chipp http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/comment-page-2/#comment-23614 Chipp Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:20:43 +0000 http://dogfoodchat.com/precise-dog-food/#comment-23614 I agree with Jess, why isn't it obvious to people that dogs are carnivores that need meat to even survive. There whole antinomy is designed to eat meat. Bella where did you find that high protein diets cause kidney disease in dogs? As a fact too many greens cause kidney stones in dogs, low protein diets lead to poor growth, muscle, heart and liver function(just to name a few). I agree with Jess, why isn’t it obvious to people that dogs are carnivores that need meat to even survive. There whole antinomy is designed to eat meat. Bella where did you find that high protein diets cause kidney disease in dogs? As a fact too many greens cause kidney stones in dogs, low protein diets lead to poor growth, muscle, heart and liver function(just to name a few).

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