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    Default Argh (again) and liver ?

    Well, I tried chicken one more time and am dealing with some pretty horrible poops (if I can call them that when they're practically liquid). I thought maybe since she'd been on raw exclusively for a while now she could handle a little. Nope. Oh well, she's been doing great on the other meats I've been giving her so I'll just give her some pumpkin for her tummy, do my best to clean up the disgusting smelly mess, and stock up on beef and pork.

    I'm looking for more info on what livers add to the diet. I know it adds in some needed nutrients, but I find so much different info from different sources, so I'm looking for the overall opinion here too. How much is needed and how often do you feed them? What do you feed it for (nutrients, enzymes, etc.)

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    We try and feed a variety of kinds...beef, pork, chicken, llama, game, etc. That way we give a good variety to cover all the bases. Although I'm not a fan of beef liver because they are HUGE!

    The younger or more natural (wild caught animals) are the best to feed because they have less toxins built up in them, since the liver is the filter for the body.

    Liver is added in for the overall nutrition. It's a necessity to the diet. Not something that can be skipped!

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    So how much and how often should I be feeding it? I've been having a hard time finding that information. Seems like every opinion is different on every web site I check

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    Liver is 5% of the diet. So if you are feeding 3% of your dogs weight, you would feed 5% of the total weight in food in liver. A nickel on a dollar. It's not a lot, but it is essential.

    I prefer red meat liver, like bison or beef or pork. Chicken liver is OK, but I'd rather the liver percentage not come from a bird.

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    personally, i'd start over....

    i'd fast the dog for 24 hours and start again with chicken backs...to stabilise...

    then slowly add chicken parts....and do the progression again....

    i feel your frustration....some dogs transition more easily than others.....

    how much does your dog weigh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicre View Post
    personally, i'd start over....

    i'd fast the dog for 24 hours and start again with chicken backs...to stabilise...

    then slowly add chicken parts....and do the progression again....

    i feel your frustration....some dogs transition more easily than others.....

    how much does your dog weigh?
    Well, I'm not going to get into the whole chicken thing again, but suffice it to say that she will not be eating chicken again. This is not even close to the first time she's had chicken and every time we get the same bad results. I realize chicken works for most, but it does not for my dog. It's no big deal to me. There are plenty of other meats out there, and she does very well on them. I realize starting over did the trick with your dogs, but for mine it is very obvious that she has a problem with chicken. Why force a meat on her that her body rejects?

    To be honest I'm happy not to feed her chicken. The things that they do to chickens is disgusting. Genetic modification, antibiotics, hormones, chemicals, etc. More so than any other meat. I'm very careful about the chicken I eat, and there's no way I'd buy Tiki $7/lb chicken for her dinner. We'd have to eat dinner while living on the streets

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdb5853 View Post
    Liver is 5% of the diet. So if you are feeding 3% of your dogs weight, you would feed 5% of the total weight in food in liver. A nickel on a dollar. It's not a lot, but it is essential.

    I prefer red meat liver, like bison or beef or pork. Chicken liver is OK, but I'd rather the liver percentage not come from a bird.
    Thanks. She'll most likely be getting beef liver or pork liver if I can find it.

    Can I add it once a week? Or does it have to be at least a couple times a week?

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    sorry about that. i had forgotten your baby had a problem with chicken....my bad. :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicre View Post
    sorry about that. i had forgotten your baby had a problem with chicken....my bad. :(
    No worries I had some on hand and thought I'd give it one last try. I now am absolutely 100% sure it's not a food for her. No biggie though, she loves pork and beef so much she'd be happy to eat it forever! And for the most part she probably will. If I spoke her language I'd be sure to tell her how lucky she is

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    I hope you find some game meat for that dog to eat!

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