Raw meat only?

[jdatwood]

If the population is substainable I see nothing wrong with hunting them.

You should read up on the slaughtering of wolves in Alaska then. Palin's program wasn't sustainable hunting, it was mindless slaughtering. (the same thing nearly wiped out the wolves in the early 1900's)

“Idaho hosts the core of the region’s wolf population, with approximately 1,000 wolves. By wiping out 220 wolves, the state is taking the first step toward crippling the regional wolf population by isolating wolves into disconnected subgroups incapable of genetic or ecological sustainability. This puts the wolves at risk for genetic inbreeding and disease outbreaks – and reduces the important ecological niche that wolves fill on the land.

“Idaho’s wildlife agency has stated that its intent is to reduce the population to only 518 wolves, while the Idaho state legislature’s official policy is that all wolves be removed ‘by whatever means necessary.’

“No other endangered species has ever been delisted at such a low population level and then immediately hunted to even lower unsustainable levels. This clearly is not responsible wolf management.”

Idaho officials have announced that they plan to allow hunters to shoot and kill up to 25% of the wolves in the state during this hunting season alone. The state has also indicated that it plans to sell an estimated 70,000 permits to hunt wolves this year -- 70 wolf-killing permits for each of the 1,000 wolves estimated to live in Idaho!

Wolves should have never been removed from Protected status. I don't think Salazar realized the can of worms he was opening by delisting them.

https://secure.defenders.org/site/Ad...Action&id=1537

Maybe we should start hunting humans since the population is sustainable these days

[mmc123]

You should read up on the slaughtering of wolves in Alaska then. Palin's program wasn't sustainable hunting, it was mindless slaughtering. (the same thing nearly wiped out the wolves in the early 1900's)

You should read the link before just running off at the mouth



Wolves should have never been removed from Protected status. I don't think Salazar realized the can of worms he was opening by delisting them.

https://secure.defenders.org/site/Ad...Action&id=1537

I've read the link long before you posted it. I've been following this for several years and as an avid trapper and hunter I stand by my statement.

IMO they should be delisted

[jdatwood]

I've read the link long before you posted it. I've been following this for several years and as an avid trapper and hunter I stand by my statement.

IMO they should be delisted

Why? So you can add a nice wolf pelt to your collection?

Wolves are still at endangered levels and should remain protected by our government. If you feel otherwise I'd love to hear WHY (not just because you're a hunter and say so)

[mmc123]

Because the numbers justify it. They should have been delisted a few years ago. Despite what you think hunter don't want to wipe out every animal. It's because of hunter's that there are elk in Kentucky and Tennessee now. Wild turkeys have also have also made an amazing come back because of hunters.
There has been endless debate on the wolf population. There are enough breeding pair to substain the population. And no I don't want a wolf pelt for my collection. I'd sell it I think they are bringing a couple hundred bucks now.

[jdatwood]

There ya go putting words in my mouth. I never said hunting was a bad thing. It can be a great means of population control.

The sheer numbers they want to eliminate this year take it far past population control

Do you know for a fact there are enough breeding pairs to sustain the population? Are you ABSOLUTELY SURE that's not just propaganda from the hunter/farmer side of the debate?

[RawFedDogs]

If the population is substainable I see nothing wrong with hunting them.

The Defenders of Wildlife make a pretty good argument that it's too early in their recovery to delist them as an endangered species. Hopefully the courts will see things their way.

[RawFedDogs]

I didn't say anything. You asked about the info on captive wolves being feed kibble that is a quote from the Mexican Wolf Husbandry Manual
Prepared by Kent Newton, Rio Grande Zoological Park

But you can find the same info on several zoo web sites they feed there wolves meat based kibble.

Well if they think those Purina One and Science Diet are high quality meat based products, they don't know a whole lot about feeding wolves OR dogs. Both are very low quality foods made up pretty much of nothing but garbage.

[mmc123]

Do you know for a fact there are enough breeding pairs to sustain the population? Are you ABSOLUTELY SURE that's not just propaganda from the hunter/farmer side of the debate?

I know for sure that they have exceeded the target numbers set forth by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife.

http://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/pressrel/09-02.htm

IMO they should have never been put on the endangered list anyway. Protected from hunting till the population recovered sure. But putting them on the endangered list makes people think they are about to go extinct which is not true. There are health pop. of wolves in Alaska and Canada.

[mmc123]

Well if they think those Purina One and Science Diet are high quality meat based products, they don't know a whole lot about feeding wolves OR dogs. Both are very low quality foods made up pretty much of nothing but garbage.

So when the experts agree with you they know a 100 times more than me or you and when they don't they don't know squat?

[mmc123]

The Defenders of Wildlife make a pretty good argument that it's too early in their recovery to delist them as an endangered species. Hopefully the courts will see things their way.

They can't be endangered, dog/wolf same species, there is millions of 'em.