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    I know that many people oppose this but I am a fan of tail docking and ear cropping on the appropriate breeds. I like ear cropping on certain bull breeds (tail docking on bull breeds is extremely frowned upon and in conformation shows is actually a disqualification).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdatwood View Post
    I think it is needless mutilation to crop ears and tails.
    Adding my two cents to say I agree...mutilation and torture!
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    Boooo to both tail docking and ear cropping.
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    both practises are becoming more and more illegal at least in europe they are but afaik in some states in america as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxshaelxx View Post
    There is no natural dog anymore, except for the wolf.
    What about Coyotes and Dingos and Dhole?



    Re docking/cropping: I was broken hearted when my ACD came to me with his tail docked - and it's not even supposed to be for his breed! (Wish I could slap that breeder - who is still doing it!)

    Isn't cropping/docking illegal in some states? IMO spaying/neutering are not cosmetic therefore comparing spaying to docking/cropping is like comparing apples to oranges.
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    Re docking/cropping: I was broken hearted when my ACD came to me with his tail docked - and it's not even supposed to be for his breed! (Wish I could slap that breeder - who is still doing it!)
    I'm on my way - I'll hold the bugger down whilst you deal to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    What about Coyotes and Dingos and Dhole?
    Dogs are selectively bred wolves. They are not selectively bred coyotes or dingos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RawFedDogs View Post
    Dogs are selectively bred wolves. They are not selectively bred coyotes or dingos.
    I only meant there were more "natural dogs" than just wolves... Weren't Australian Cattle dogs bred from Dingos, Collies and Dalmations?

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    I'm not sure exactly what breeds make up cattle dogs. However:

    Collies are wolves
    Dalmations are wolves
    Dingos are wolves (brought to Austraila by either the aborigines when they first settled there OR they are ferel decendents of dogs brought by europeans when they first arrived in australia ... can't remember which, but they are dogs, hence wolves.)
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    I hate arbitrary actions done in our culture....the lack of thinking, just "its how we do it and it makes them a "show dog" nah nah nah nah.....
    I'm deeply THOUGHTFUL in what I do every day in the most literal sense. No, I'm not bragging that I'm NICE. I'm saying that everything I try to do is with considerable THINKING. It creates an issue for me many days and can really hamper decision making.


    But seriously, the answer to the question from these people who love chopping ears and tails off their animals is "it makes them better SHOW DOGS?"

    Seriously, SERIOUSLY? THIS is their answer?

    Brilliant. SO I suppose if we started a trend in our culture of Dog Shows with 2 legged Dogs who stand up and walk around the ring then we should just CHOP their front legs off?

    This issue is so stupid I gotta leave before I get even more jacked up on it.

    OUT

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