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    [QUOTE=malluver1005;20342]While TOTW is a very good grain free kibble, my only drawback would be the ethoxyquin. Dog Food Reviews even says that they can't find ethoxyquin free ingredients on the TOTW website.

    I agree with this post and the ethoxyquin issue. TOTW has lower protein than some other grain free foods. It all depends on your dog's breed, energy level, etc. If you have a fairly inactive dog who gets 2 20 min walks a day, feeding a high protein food could increase his energy levels and he could act out in your home (i.e. more chewing, "zooms" around the house, barking...). If your dog gets lots of exercise and can use the extra fuel, more protein is probably great. Many dogs can tolerate grains just fine, like my dog, and I use both with grain and grain free kibbles. Grain is quite a controversial issue in the dog community right now, and I believe it really is what works for your dog. I'm not a big fan of TOTW, but its ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beagle10 View Post
    If you have a fairly inactive dog who gets 2 20 min walks a day, feeding a high protein food could increase his energy levels and he could act out in your home (i.e. more chewing, "zooms" around the house, barking...). If your dog gets lots of exercise and can use the extra fuel, more protein is probably great.
    Now, I never got this. I know that dogs use fat as energy more than we do, but all over the place you hear that the more protein the food has, the more your dog is going to be bouncing off the walls. I've used both high protein and average protein kibbles and have seen no difference.

    Is it really true???

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrkim120 View Post
    Now, I never got this. I know that dogs use fat as energy more than we do, but all over the place you hear that the more protein the food has, the more your dog is going to be bouncing off the walls. I've used both high protein and average protein kibbles and have seen no difference.

    Is it really true???
    My dog is on the highest protein kibbles available, and he is an inactive dog, and he doesn't act like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malluver1005 View Post
    While TOTW is a very good grain free kibble, my only drawback would be the ethoxyquin. Dog Food Reviews even says that they can't find ethoxyquin free ingredients on the TOTW website.

    I agree with this post and the ethoxyquin issue. TOTW has lower protein than some other grain free foods. It all depends on your dog's breed, energy level, etc. If you have a fairly inactive dog who gets 2 20 min walks a day, feeding a high protein food could increase his energy levels and he could act out in your home (i.e. more chewing, "zooms" around the house, barking...). If your dog gets lots of exercise and can use the extra fuel, more protein is probably great. Many dogs can tolerate grains just fine, like my dog, and I use both with grain and grain free kibbles. Grain is quite a controversial issue in the dog community right now, and I believe it really is what works for your dog. I'm not a big fan of TOTW, but its ok.
    ive seen things saying ethoxyquin isnt a huge issue. my food has some in it, and ive heard that there are trace amounts in all. even if there arent i dont feel to bad feeding a food with it.
    TOTW is a weird food, theyre grain free, but the salmon formula has 25 grams protein. the other formulas only have 32 which is also low for grain free, but 25 is very low for grain free, especially with all the meat there.
    also using grained and grained free kibbles counteracts the benefits of grain free kibbles.
    Quote Originally Posted by harrkim120 View Post
    Now, I never got this. I know that dogs use fat as energy more than we do, but all over the place you hear that the more protein the food has, the more your dog is going to be bouncing off the walls. I've used both high protein and average protein kibbles and have seen no difference.

    Is it really true???
    i think you've answered your own question =p.

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    I have a dog with compromised kidneys.
    I've learned that it's not the quantity but quality of protein. My dog's creatnine level went from 2.1 to 1.6 after about 4 months on Primal raw food.

    I've been flamed for feeding that to my dog but F it. I'm exceptionally pleased with both the results of the food and the responsiveness of the company.

    What my vet said is that commercial dog food does not have to have regulated sodium content...so a dog with weaker kidneys being fed salty dog food would have to drink A LOT of water to balance it out if even able to do so.

    I have a 90lbs dog who couldn't drink enough to flush out the salt in the dog food. I never thought salt would be an issue in dog food...go figure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeserf View Post
    I have a dog with compromised kidneys.
    I've learned that it's not the quantity but quality of protein. My dog's creatnine level went from 2.1 to 1.6 after about 4 months on Primal raw food.

    I've been flamed for feeding that to my dog but F it. I'm exceptionally pleased with both the results of the food and the responsiveness of the company.

    What my vet said is that commercial dog food does not have to have regulated sodium content...so a dog with weaker kidneys being fed salty dog food would have to drink A LOT of water to balance it out if even able to do so.

    I have a 90lbs dog who couldn't drink enough to flush out the salt in the dog food. I never thought salt would be an issue in dog food...go figure!
    why would you get flamed for feeding raw? most people on these forums advocate raw a little too much.

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    Are you feeding the Primal grinds or the mixes?

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    because I don't feed my dog meat from the supermarket - a chicken back, or such, it's not the same as "raw". It comes in a bag, I pay for it (which, by the pound, isn't THAT much more expensive than quality meat in a city supermarket...) and has non-meat ingredients.

    I give her the primal patties. I bought a small tube of grinds to supplement because sometimes her tummy grumbles at 3am...but it was very messy and it doesn't last long enough, thawed, for the reasons we tried it.

    It's been awesome for Lucy - she eats it so fast, licks the bowl clean and jumps for it when it's meal time.

    I also give her marrow bones for her teeth and general jaw health. I don't buy primal bones. Primal sent us a box of goodies and they included their brand of treats which she LOVED (but they're VERY $$$).

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    165002 Chicken Nuggets 4 lbs. $21.49
    165002.1 Chicken Patties 8 lbs. $38.99
    165003.1 Duck Patties 8 lbs. $42.99
    165023 Turkey & Sardine Patties 8 lbs. $46.99

    That is only a sampling of their foods/sizes/and prices. It looks alot more expensive that a proper raw diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUNKem733 View Post
    165002 Chicken Nuggets 4 lbs. $21.49
    165002.1 Chicken Patties 8 lbs. $38.99
    165003.1 Duck Patties 8 lbs. $42.99
    165023 Turkey & Sardine Patties 8 lbs. $46.99

    That is only a sampling of their foods/sizes/and prices. It looks alot more expensive that a proper raw diet.
    Holy crap. When I put Champ on raw when his kibble is gone, I'll be feeding almost 5 lbs of food per day. None of these would even last two days!!!

    I'll stick to my $.74/lb average.
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