Starting new food- Taste of the Wild.. and a ?

[joodie]

Anyone else using this food? It's grain free which I'm hoping will help with my Rottie's gas problem.

I also want to try Green Cow Tripe food. Anyone have any experience with the Trippett or Green Cow canned food?

[carnivorediet]

My dogs were on Evo, which is grain free as well, and still the rott and the beagle mix were gassy. It wasnt until I went to homemade raw that the gas stopped. I mean totally stopped... I havent smelled a gassy dog in months. We have one of those doggie dooley systems (septic tank of sorts) and a month or so after the transition to raw the horrible smell from that is now gone. I used to hate having to lift the lid to add water and now there is no smell.

[mastifflover2]

I haven't used that type of food but for any gas problems, I give Sully my younger Mastiff yogurt, usually 1-2 tablespoons over his kibble in the morning. I use the plain yogurt or even the fruit ones. Keep an eye on the ingredients and carbs. That seems to help!

[LPacker79]

I use the Tripette canned tripe (the beef and the lamb). My guy likes it, and it didn't smell as bad as I expected. Fresh green tripe has a horrific odor from what I've heard. The canned isn't nearly as bad, but you won't want to be hovering over the bowl or anything.

[domari]

I've been feeding Taste of the Wild to two of my dogs. One of them had horrific gas and other stomach issues. He's been doing great on TOTW, gained his weight back, and we can stay in the same room with him now without having to run for the deoderizing spray!

I haven't tried the tripe food, but our feed store doesn't carry many varieties of pet food.

[BoxerMommie]

My only concern is that TOTW does not guarantee that their suppliers as well as their own company uses Ethoxyquin free ingredients. Ethoxyquin is a preservative that is a known carcinogen/poison. This would be my only concern as opposed to a company like Innova Evo or Wellness that DO guarantee this.

For gas I use apple cider vinegar and a probiotic.

[domari]

My only concern is that TOTW does not guarantee that their suppliers as well as their own company uses Ethoxyquin free ingredients. Ethoxyquin is a preservative that is a known carcinogen/poison. This would be my only concern as opposed to a company like Innova Evo or Wellness that DO guarantee this.

For gas I use apple cider vinegar and a probiotic.

This is part of an email I received from them:

"There has not been any scientific research which substantiates the
rumors on the internet regarding ethoxyquin and pet problems. The FDA
has some information on these rumors on its web site.
Ethoxyquin has been used (at much higher levels than observed today) as
a pet food preservative for many years.
We use natural preservatives with our foods, applied to the product
after the cooking process.
Preservatives which are used in individual ingredients will not only be
diluted during the mixing process, but used up during the cooking
process (see attached).
Effects of bad ingredients secondary to use of no or poorly performing
antioxidants has been documented, and is of greater concern, in my
opinion.
I wouldn't switch my pet food based on unsubstantiated rumors."

"The preservation systems used by our vendors are considered proprietary information. The heat from our pet food process destroys antioxidants that are used in the ingredients that we purchase. The cooking process at our facilities is at or above 240 degrees. After the heat process (extrusion and drying), we apply natural tocopherols (Vitamins A & E) in order to carry the shelf life of the food. Diamond does not preserve any of its products with ethoxyquin, only with mixed tocopherols. "

[zentrainer]

Based on that email I would not fed it.

The proper email would have read something like:

"We totally understand your concern and that you want to feed your pets the best. Every ingredient in our food is listed on our bag and we guarantee it. Blah, blah, blah..."

They didn't really answer your question.

The FDA is a political organization not a scientific one.

[joodie]

everything these days causes cancer.

just my 2 cents.

[BoxerMommie]

Based on that email I would not fed it.

The proper email would have read something like:

"We totally understand your concern and that you want to feed your pets the best. Every ingredient in our food is listed on our bag and we guarantee it. Blah, blah, blah..."

They didn't really answer your question.

The FDA is a political organization not a scientific one.

ITA. What are they going to tell you? Yes, we use Ethoxyquin, we know it causes cancer, but we still use it, we believe it's the best preservative out there, we make every effort to make sure we can kill your family pet and we would like you to still use our food? Good grief of course not. Canidae has tried to spin that tomato pomace, barley, and "ocean fish meal" is a good change to their food too, it doesn't mean that it is.

Preserving naturally would be with vitamin E among a couple of others, not a pesticide. They used to use Ethoxyquin as a PESTICIDE you cannot tell me that it doesn't cause damage to EAT poison.

And IMO yes there are many things that are cancer contributors nowadays, but obviously we can't get away from breathing air, we CAN choose not to support a company that uses a pesticide as a preservative simply because it's cheaper than a natural non poisonious way to do so.

There's a reason why TOTW is a very cheap grain free food. You get 33 pounds for around $40, look at other grain free foods, MUCH higher in price, there's a reason.

I'm not saying don't use it, I'm simply saying, please know that it isn't any different than feeding your pet a food preserved with BHA or BHT or adding a little Raid to their food on a daily basis...it's poison pure and simple.