Gluten meals vs meat/meat meals

[xellil]

[QUOTE=whiteleo;158957]

Yes I do. I feed Royal Canin, I recommend Royal Canin, and I believe in Royal Canin. Everything they create is based on what studying dogs has told them dogs' need. I trust the science, and I trust their quality control above any other company.

SEE, I TOLD YOU THIS PERSON WORKED FOR A KIBBLE CO! Nothing you say now will convince me otherwise with that statement!

He has been touting Royal Canin a long time. I would be extremely surprised if he weren't involved with the company.

Besides, all the vets I know that are truly involved in animal care aren't posting on chat boards all day long.

[mythbuster]

[QUOTE=xellil;158966]

He has been touting Royal Canin a long time. I would be extremely surprised if he weren't involved with the company.

Besides, all the vets I know that are truly involved in animal care aren't posting on chat boards all day long.

show me another company using NIRS and I'll consider their product. Otherwise, my pets' safety is my first priority.

[PDXdogmom]

[QUOTE=whiteleo;158957]

Yes I do. I feed Royal Canin, I recommend Royal Canin, and I believe in Royal Canin. Everything they create is based on what studying dogs has told them dogs' need. I trust the science, and I trust their quality control above any other company.

SEE, I TOLD YOU THIS PERSON WORKED FOR A KIBBLE CO! Nothing you say now will convince me otherwise with that statement!

Well, you could very well be right; or he just might be an insider in the dog food world who happens to feel passionately about Royal Canin and truly believes they're superior.

Have to say, the first few times I browsed on this forum, I was almost convinced that a majority of members were stakeholders in the Champion Pet Foods company because of the absolute conviction that Orijen/Acana were the best kibbles that exist.

[Jenny]

Yes I do. I feed Royal Canin, I recommend Royal Canin, and I believe in Royal Canin. Everything they create is based on what studying dogs has told them dogs' need. I trust the science, and I trust their quality control above any other company.

Many companies have done researches. What makes you think Royal Canin's studies are better or more reliable than others'?

Nowadays dogs seems to have more cancer, sterility and allergies than earlier. I'm sure it's partly because of commercial, processed foods and their preservatives. If your pets' safety is really your first priority, you should feed them natural food and avoid commercial foods.

[greyshadows]

I agree it seems our pets have more problems but I wonder if that's true. Maybe we just have better veterinary care and are more aware. I mean my grandfather had dogs all his life and he never ever took them to a vet, in fact I don't know if any were near him in his early life. He fed them whatever was around at the time, dog food(I only remember Purina) and leftovers. If the dog got sick and died he just buried them in the backyard! Even my parents rarely went to the vet. I had no idea dogs even had allergies until I had my own! Now I follow dog issues online and in magazines and have never heard of some of their diseases.

[Serenity]

Just from personal exp I think its all of the line breeding/inbreeding that has been done over the years.... Mutts seem to be healthy and can eat almost anything with out any issues and are fine. The pure breds are usually the ones with the health issues... Any one every notice that?

[xellil]

Just from personal exp I think its all of the line breeding/inbreeding that has been done over the years.... Mutts seem to be healthy and can eat almost anything with out any issues and are fine. The pure breds are usually the ones with the health issues... Any one every notice that?

Oh, without a doubt. I've owned alot of dogs in my life but very few purebreds. Of course, none of the purebreds were "high quality."
The dalmation keeled over dead at 3.
The Great Dane was mentally retarded and had horrible hip dysplasia.
The only dog i've ever had that died of cancer was a lab.

the mutts have generally lived a long time and had few, if any, health issues. My last dog before these two was a 70 pound dog of indeterminate breed who lived to 17 with never a vet visit for illness until the last few months of his life, when his back legs started to quit working.

And dogs SHOULD be garbage guts - I don't know why all these dogs get sick on a pea size piece of liver or a little chicken fat. I don't know that it's a purebred thing (my two purebreds are garbage guts) but it sure is weird.

Maybe years of dry dog food has ruined their digestive process.

[mythbuster]

Many companies have done researches. What makes you think Royal Canin's studies are better or more reliable than others'?

There is a lot of good research out there, and there is a lot of bad research out there. When I look for research, I want to see peer reviews included. I also like RC because I've used their products and seen them work in my own animals and in my patients. I think Hills has done some good research, but when it comes to their products I feel like they have tunnel vision; they treat one issue and forget there is a whole dog (or cat) attached to the issue their treating. It's the combination of research, product line, AND quality control that makes me choose RC above anyone else. The kicker for me is the quality control. like I said. Show me another company using NIRS or something equivalent. The thought of another melamine disaster is terrifying to me. I never want to go through that or see any of my patients go through that again, and RC is the only company that I am aware of that has anything in place that will catch something like that, whether they're looking for it or not.

[whiteleo]

Personally when it comes to food and it's quality it all comes down to money...Back in the day, it wasn't so expensive to actually use good quality products, but as time has gone on and things have gone more complex and expensive the food that is now bad , may very well have been fine back in its day because it actually used decent products. JMO