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    This thread has gotten highly amusing since the last time I checked it. Two whole new pages of pure entertainment... Gotta love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esme View Post
    but you all said wolves are carnivores so they shouldn't eat berries.
    No no no, they DO eat berries. They taste good. I think what you're missing here is that dogs lack the dentition AND digestive tract to extract nutrients from planet matter in a raw form.

    Quote Originally Posted by Esme View Post
    I still belive that dogs need veggies and fruit
    Let's do an experiment (I'm not going to accuse you of not caring about your dogs though...)

    Feed your dogs nothing but whole, raw, unprocessed vegetables for a day or two. Post up pictures of their poop after

    Quote Originally Posted by Esme View Post
    And to answer the last post they do have molars for grinding foods just like we do.
    When was the last time you looked in a dogs mouth? Their teeth are pointed and sharp for breaking bones & tearing meat. They DO NOT have flat teeth like omnivores & herbivores.

    Open your dogs mouth and observe how the teeth come together as the jaw closes... Much like scissors. Certainly not designed for crushing the cell walls of plant material

    Quote Originally Posted by Esme View Post
    One other thing that I found was the guy Dr. Billinghurst who created the BARF diet did include veggies and fruit in the diet. Just something to think about.
    You should do a little more research about Ian Billinghurst and his "BARF" diet
    Raw Meaty Bones

    Just something to think about

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    I am sooooo over debating this with you people. You are absolutely unbelieveable!. I didn't say they look like ours I said they have them like we do! I have a wonderful husband, 2 beautiful kids and amazing friends to be spending my time with. Although they have all enjoyed looking at the ignorant comments you have made. Almost like a superbowl party, just more laughs. Get educated, get a life and get over yourselves. Although I do wish the best to your dogs, hopefully they won't have to pay for your mistakes.
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    Just keeps getting better!

    I may not be able to fall asleep but at least I have something to keep me amused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esme View Post
    I am sooooo over debating this with you people. You are absolutely unbelieveable!. I didn't say they look like ours I said they have them like we do, Dumbass! I have a wonderful husband, 2 beautiful kids and amazing friends to be spending my time with. Although they have all enjoyed looking at the ignorant comments you have made. Almost like a superbowl party, just more laughs. Get educated, get a life and get over yourselves. Although I do wish the best to your dogs, hopefully they won't have to pay for your mistakes.
    Hehe, I think you are the one who is unbelievable. You have been presented with lots of evidence that dogs don't need plant material in their diet and you choose to ignore it. For example, my dogs are healthy and haven't had any plant material in over 8 years? How much more do you need than that? What nutrients are in plants that are not in the meat, bones, and organs of the prey animals that eat them? The answer to that is "None".

    Dogs eating berries are like us eating cake, ice cream, candy, etc. It tastes wonderful but we would be better off if we didn't eat any of that stuff.

    As for Billinghurst and his BARF diet, many people are like me and began feeding a BARF diet when I began feeding raw. After more research and observation of my dogs, after 3 or 4 months of feeding BARF, decided that the veggies are unnecessary. Everytime I fed them a veggie mix, they had diarrhea the next day. Billinghurst is in the business of selling premade patties. He can't be saying that dogs don't need veggies, yet sell patties that contain them now, can he?

    Anyway, you have fun with your husband and kids. I know it upsets you to come here and find out that your beliefs are not quite what you thought they were. A carnivore eating plants ... hehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esme View Post
    I didn't say they look like ours I said they have them like we do!
    You still didn't answer my question. If you claim dogs/wolves are omnivores then WHY are their teeth shaped the way they are? I am assuming you have now looked into your dogs mouth by now and noticed that their teeth are made for tearing and riping meat and crunching through bone....this is why they are sharp.....all of them. Our molars are flat for breaking down and grinding plant matter, that is why we are omnivores.


    I have a wonderful husband, 2 beautiful kids and amazing friends to be spending my time with.
    Good for you! Me too!!

    Although I do wish the best to your dogs, hopefully they won't have to pay for your mistakes.
    Awww, thanks. But, it is your dogs that you need to be worried about. I'm not the one trying to feed my carnivores an unnatural diet that includes fruit and veggies.
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    When PRM is not ideal: Hyperuricosuria and the BRT
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    Quote Originally Posted by saraj2878 View Post
    You still didn't answer my question.
    Mine either... it's too easy to throw a tantrum and sling insults around when they don't get their way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esme View Post
    I really could care less what all of yo[U] think, I didn't ask for your opinion because I don't want or need it. But hey, let's do an experiment using your dogs because you obviously don't care about them anyways. Keep feeding your dog an all meat and bone diet and don't give any supplements or vitamins and get back to me in about six months and we'll see how that works out for you. Bet you won't cause you know I'm right. And unlike you I prefer natural not synthetic so if my dog can get all the nutrition she needs from food why would I put additional chemicals in her. I know some of you are already close minded , but why don't you do some more research and consult a holistic vet and nutritionist and you will see that yes there are people in their right mind who will back me. Oh! but do please get back to me on that experiment :)
    my dogs are on meat, bones, and organs for seven months.

    they are doing better than they did on kibble or home cooked.

    they no longer need the dentals they were scheduled to have because they don't get sugar anymore which rots their teeth.

    the action of eating raw makes gives their teeth, jaw muscles and neck muscles a great work out and they are stronger as a result.

    this is back up by my vet, by the way, who examined them after six months on raw.

    their coats are shiny, lustrous, and my almost eleven year old dog has stopped greying and is acting like a five year old.

    my pug no longer has teeth issues, ear yeast infections, dry skin or goopy eyes.

    physically, my dogs are muscular when they weren't before.

    so i've done your experiment....and my dogs are 2000000000% in better shape than they've ever been in their entire lives.

    oh, and by the way, my pug eats his bedding, which is polyester.

    he eats carrots when they fall on the floor from making our salad, the human salad, because carrots are sweet and who doesn't love sweet....

    sweet feeds disease and rots their teeth and causes digestive changes including, but not limited to the pH of their systems.

    note to self. read entire thread before posting.
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    I spent one day away from DFC...
    And I must say that I'm sorry I missed out on this joke.
    But, it was a hilarious start to a long day at work.


    I spilled vanilla pudding with whipped cream last night, and Annie was more than happy to lick up the residue after wiping MOST of it up myself.
    I suppose since she was happy to eat it, it ought to be a staple in her diet. LOL
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    I have no idea how I missed this thread.

    LOL!
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