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    its funny because i've read multiple times that rice is a pricey filler. where are you buying rice to think its so expensive? theres different kinds and of course brands that claim there's gives you wings, but bottomline...rice is cheap. i would know...i'm korean...every freakin meal used to have rice (when I lived at home). I think i read it in some other post somewhere but if rice is sooo expensive, why are so many poor countries living malnourished on rice only? you'd think they'd go grow some corn or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorgiPaws View Post
    Compared to the cost of real quality meat, it's cheap. Thus making it a cheap filler.
    Apples and oranges Miss Corgi Paws, for you should compare meats to meats and fillers to fillers. Chicken By-Product meal is a cheaper source of animal source proteins than meat muscle. White rice is of course in their for reasons of economics (helps keeps cost lower for the consumer), obviously a filler type ingredient, but it is not a cheap filler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claybuster View Post
    White rice is of course in their for reasons of economics (helps keeps cost lower for the consumer), obviously a filler type ingredient, but it is not a cheap filler.
    It's there cause it's cheaper for Abady. I'm with BabyHusky on the rice. You just won't question Abady's promotional material in the least will you, CB. Of course none of it is designed to make you want to buy their product. It's just there to tell the 100% truth. HA!
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    Er...rice is gluten free regardless of whether it is long or short grain or whole (brown) or milled (white). Neither the bran layer or the germ in brown rice, nor the starchy endosperm in both brown and white rice contain gluten. Some brands of white rice may have a enrichment coating applied that may contain some sort of gluten in it. But these coating are actually very rare. At least that's how I learned it when I studied human nutrition many moons ago.

    Whether it is appropriate or not for dogs will probably be argued until the end of time. But there is no gluten in rice.
    I wouldn't bet on that. I doubt when you see brown rice in dog food you're getting Uncle Ben's gluten-free long grain brown rice. It is the hull and the bran that comes in play as to whether or not it is ideal for dogs. White rice is without question and no debate less fibrous than brown rice. Abady foods
    not only take the gluten issue very serious, fiber is another serious issue and dogs fare better with lower levels of fiber. That would be another reason besides the gluten as to why white rice is superior over brown rice for dogs.

    from Wiki:

    Rice bran also contains a high level of dietary fibers (beta-glucan, pectin, and gum). In addition, it also contains 4-hydroxy-3-methoxycinnamic acid (ferulic acid), which is also a component of the structure of non-lignified cell walls. However, some research suggests that there are particularly high levels of inorganic arsenic (a toxin and carcinogen) present in rice bran, and that any health benefits may not be worth the potential detriments.[1]. Other types of bran (derived from wheat, oat or barley) contain less arsenic than rice bran. bran

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    Quote Originally Posted by RawFedDogs View Post
    It's there cause it's cheaper for Abady. I'm with BabyHusky on the rice. You just won't question Abady's promotional material in the least will you, CB. Of course none of it is designed to make you want to buy their product. It's just there to tell the 100% truth. HA!
    Ask yourself this, why is it you hardly ever see white rice in dog food? Could it be that just might cut into the profit margin? If it really is a cheap filler how come they are not all using white rice? You don't see it because it is an expensive filler ingredient for manufacturers to purchase. Same can be said for Lard. Pork fat is an expensive type of fat for manufacturers to purchase, therefore you will rarely see it in dog food.

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    Rice Protein
    The protein in rice is considered incomplete because it has lower levels of certain essential amino acids. If all essential amino acids are not present in sufficient quantities the rice protein cannot be used for growth or maintenance of tissues. In this case protein in rice is often burned as fuel or converted into fat and stored. The protein will only be converted to fat if too many calories are consumed. riceprotein

    Tissue building nutrients come from aniaml source proteins, not white rice. There is no risk of jeopardizing the protein core of the food which is at 90% plus animal source. White rice thus being low fiber, gluten free, and very weak in protein makes it IMO the prefect filler type ingredient.

    I don't know, some would opt for lawn weeds like dandelions in their dog food, along with some marigold flowers, and some Saskatoon berries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claybuster View Post
    I don't know, some would opt for lawn weeds like dandelions in their dog food, along with some marigold flowers, and some Saskatoon berries.
    I don't know why one would opt for fillers at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RawFedDogs View Post
    I don't know why one would opt for fillers at all.
    Economics, helps bring costs down for consumers. No gluten, less fiber, and non-allergenic make its it good choice.

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    No one has mentioned yet in the pages that i read that CBP contains the bodies filtering organs and contain the toxins of animals that were raised far faster than they would have been in the wild. Just a thought

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