backed by scientific study??

[DaneMama]

O the part of the forum that said for dry and kibble threads. Wow I was mistaken to think that is what might be discussed there. Silly me. I don't recall posting to the raw thread. And you need to go back and read all my posts. And whoever asked who moved my thread I would love to know. I don't think I have been trying to push my food on anyone and I just can't figure out why you guys are. This whole thing is way out of hand and the first questions is pointless now. I feel like you are just looking for something to argue over. I was interested in facts. If that bothers you to bad I guess and yes what most of you say is bashing and does make others who don't feed the way you think we should the way you do that their just stupid idiots. Like I said so far not impressed.

You have to keep in mind the topic of the thread that you posted, not just where you posted it.

Again, I moved it for the content of the thread. The way that you worded it directed it to all people out there, not just kibble feeders. This is why I moved it. I would have moved a kibble content based thread out of raw, etc.

Not once on here has anyone said that "You should feed raw, shame on you for not!!!" Not once has anyone said that "Shame on you for feeding kibble!!!"

[jdatwood]

Won't post again, I did request my post moved and the topic has basicly run amuck. If I got everyone all upset Im sorry

Natalie said she was going to move it like 2 pages ago and you never spoke up to not have it moved.

You brought raw into the discussion

The way the original post was worded would have led ANYONE reading it to believe it applied to ALL food types, NOT simply kibble

I'm sorry you're going to leave because of a healthy debate.

[DaneMama]

Won't post again, I did request my post moved and the topic has basicly run amuck. If I got everyone all upset Im sorry

Absolutely no reason to be sorry! Debate is what this forum is all about. We all have to respect one another, and I haven't seen any disrespect. I would have closed the thread down long ago if I had seen it. If I do see any I will lock it.

[dogtrainer1507]

Sorry I did not move my thread or ask anyone else to move it

[CorgiPaws]

O the part of the forum that said for dry and kibble threads. Wow I was mistaken to think that is what might be discussed there. Silly me. I don't recall posting to the raw thread. And you need to go back and read all my posts. And whoever asked who moved my thread I would love to know. I don't think I have been trying to push my food on anyone and I just can't figure out why you guys are. This whole thing is way out of hand and the first questions is pointless now. I feel like you are just looking for something to argue over. I was interested in facts. If that bothers you to bad I guess and yes what most of you say is bashing and does make others who don't feed the way you think we should the way you do that their just stupid idiots. Like I said so far not impressed.

Are we going to keep ignoring the fact it was YOU who brought up what wolves do and don't eat in the wild? It was YOU who brought natural diets into the discussion on what is and is not appropriate.

I don't understand why everyone is so butt hurt on this! I don't see this as a kibble. raw debate. it IS a debate on ingredients.

I am REALLY tired of every time I chime into a kibble thread, no matter what I say, it's pushing raw, because I'm a known raw feeder. If I say "dogs are carnivores" I'm pushing raw. If I say "dogs actually don't eat the stomach contents of their prey" I'm pushing raw.
Not ONCE did anyone in thie thread say that raw was the only way. Not once. But for some reason you think that's all we're doing.

I really do hope that you do decide to stick around, but if you don't I understand. Some people just aren't up for a healthy discussion.

[CorgiPaws]

Sorry I did not move my thread or ask anyone else to move it

No need to be sorry for something like that. Heck, I post stuff in the wrong section all the time and have to PM someone to move it for me! haha.

[DaneMama]

Are we going to keep ignoring the fact it was YOU who brought up what wolves do and don't eat in the wild? It was YOU who brought natural diets into the discussion on what is and is not appropriate.

I don't understand why everyone is so butt hurt on this! I don't see this as a kibble. raw debate. it IS a debate on ingredients.

I am REALLY tired of every time I chime into a kibble thread, no matter what I say, it's pushing raw, because I'm a known raw feeder. If I say "dogs are carnivores" I'm pushing raw. If I say "dogs actually don't eat the stomach contents of their prey" I'm pushing raw.
Not ONCE did anyone in thie thread say that raw was the only way. Not once. But for some reason you think that's all we're doing.

I really do hope that you do decide to stick around, but if you don't I understand. Some people just aren't up for a healthy discussion.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! Seriously just said what I have wanted to say, but didn't know how to say it for the LONGEST TIME!!!

[dogtrainer1507]

I never wanted a debate I simply asked a question and am still getting slammed for it and I end my posts now because whether you admit or not you come off rude and make some feel picked on and that isn't how you treat people if you want them stick around. Thanks for making my first forum experience a horrible one.

[harrkim120]

It is true...the intention wasn't to start a debate, but it did. It happens. BUT I keep hearing you guys saying that you hope dogtrainer1507 stays around and that you don't want them to feel unwelcome. I don't know how many times the OP admitted defeat and kept stating that they didn't want a debate...even though it ended up becoming that, yet the majority of the following posts were debates and telling the OP how they brought this on themself.

No matter what was previously said or done, IMO the only way this thread is going to be saved is if everyone stops comparing and actually stays on the main topic which was the search for any scientific studies, etc. I understand that some of you don't need this to feel that you're doing the right thing(myself included...sometimes ), but that wasn't the issue.

[DaneMama]

It is true...the intention wasn't to start a debate, but it did. It happens. BUT I keep hearing you guys saying that you hope dogtrainer1507 stays around and that you don't want them to feel unwelcome. I don't know how many times the OP admitted defeat and kept stating that they didn't want a debate...even though it ended up becoming that, yet the majority of the following posts were debates and telling the OP how they brought this on themself.

Its hard to come onto a forum as a "newbie" and have your first post as this kind of thread and not feel unwelcome, especially if everyone doesn't agree with you. Dogtrainer1507 may have put up the white flag, but also just brushed off the reasons as to why we all posted the way that we did....?

The best way to welcome yourself onto a forum is to introduce yourself in the Introductions forum, tell us all a little bit about yourself and why you are interested in being here. Its just proper netiquette.

No matter what was previously said or done, IMO the only way this thread is going to be saved is if everyone stops comparing and actually stays on the main topic which was the search for any scientific studies, etc. I understand that some of you don't need this to feel that you're doing the right thing(myself included...sometimes ), but that wasn't the issue.

I don't think this thread can be saved LOL...its a bit too far gone. At this point we can all agree to disagree and go on living life and take what we all said with a grain of salt, no hard feelings.

I actually already contributed to the original question at hand, like others did as well. But then the thread took on a whole new dimension because new questions were being asked in later posts. Threads will do that from time to time, and we will split them off if its necessary.