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    Meggels, I've never heard of anyone else feeding Nutrisca. It really does seem like a good food and sounds like a great backup for your Frenchie. By the way, I LOVE Frenchies! I haven't heard back from Dogswell customer service yet. I have a lot of questions. I think I'm just going to get on the phone with the company and ask away...

    My questions:

    Where are your ingredients sourced from?
    Are the meats USDA inspected and passed fit for human consumption?
    How do I know that 4D meats are not used in your foods?
    Is the menhaden fish meal preserved with ethoxyquin by the supplier or you?
    Are any of your foods rendered?
    What factory do you use?
    Does it belong to you?
    Is anything produced there that is NOT approved for human consumption?
    What standards do you have for producing non contaminated food?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RawFedDogs View Post
    Actually you will be surprised. There are 4-D meats and other unnamed things in all kibbles.
    A very dangerous and incorrect generalized statement.

    I feed kibble
    no D meats

    Please speak in factual data.
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    My opinion is, high quality kibble or not, unless you are there to see them make the food you can't be sure of what you are putting in your dogs mouths. Even when feeding brands like Orijen and Taste of the Wild I was still worried because I would really never know, and I would be so stressed from another pet food scare. SO glad I switched to raw. I know EXACTLY what my dogs are eating and I have no more stress about their health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K9Pro View Post
    A very dangerous and incorrect generalized statement.

    I feed kibble
    no D meats

    Please speak in factual data.
    How it dangerous?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilasMom View Post
    How it dangerous?
    I agree. I would think it dangerous to assume that there is not. Better safe than sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donna Little View Post
    Page 23 of the "What To Do When Your Dog Attempts Suicide book":
    "When your small dog swallows a deer carcass whole, first try prying the mouth open widely and insert tongs down their throat to grab Bambi. If that fails, insert the vacuum hose and turn on, being careful not to suck the stomach out also. This should remove the offending meal quickly and with no lasting side effects."


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    I honestly must say, this is the reason I switched to raw. It wasnt that paticular video, but it WAS the 30 or so articles I read stating the same thing. Dont get me wrong, my whole life I was taught to feed kibble. It was the 'norm'. But after I read that there may very well be euthanized pets, road kill, and old, nasty meat thrown away by super markets, styrofoam and all, being put into my dogs food, I decided to switch. Im not saying that the good, more expensive dog food contain these items, but it IS proven that the cheap stuff does. Ignorance is bliss in most instances, but its still ignorance. I dont know, I read, and read and read more about doing the switch, and it was the best choice for me. I wouldnt feed my dog anything I wouldnt eat. Would you eat that kibble food? I know I wouldnt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilasMom View Post
    How it dangerous?
    Because it is these kinds of 100% untrue comments that dumbs down the discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaViking View Post
    Because it is these kinds of 100% untrue comments that dumbs down the discussion.
    There is no danger in that!! Maybe danger to the pet food companies that someone won't buy their crap dog food. Boo hoo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donna Little View Post
    Page 23 of the "What To Do When Your Dog Attempts Suicide book":
    "When your small dog swallows a deer carcass whole, first try prying the mouth open widely and insert tongs down their throat to grab Bambi. If that fails, insert the vacuum hose and turn on, being careful not to suck the stomach out also. This should remove the offending meal quickly and with no lasting side effects."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Unosmom View Post
    Ok... I doubt anyone on this forum actually feeds 4-D meats or unnamed meat and bone meals. I find this post to be inflamattory and offensive, if someone chose to feed kibble, its their choice. If you want to post this, post in in general topic forum. I'm sure you'd get offended if I went to a raw section and said " its time to think about switching back to kibble.." for whatever reason.
    I actually think most raw feeders would welcome your post. We'd take a real close look at every one of your reasons. Of course you'd leave the thread fully convinced that raw is the way to go. But now I am getting off subject.

    To get back on subject. Unosomom brings up some good points. I would like to believe that our kibble feeders here do feed good brand kibbles. My post about Purina wasn't a, "Hey, lets all go to raw because this dog food company is awful". My goal was to arm more users with facts against Purina and even some of the other not so good dog food companies. I'm sure if I did enough research I could probably find some problems with a few prepackage raw dog food companies. Does that mean that we should all switch to kibble? Not at all. Just because one company is doing something awful shouldn't mean that we banish every company within that market.

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    On the other hand, some very expensive dry foods have some very horrible ingredients. Also, people have come here saying they feed Alpo and Purina. Not everyone here feeds Acana. They should see this.

    Shoot, i was feeding animal digest in Fortiflora and didn't even read the label. I should have come back here and read this.

    I don't think it matters where it is. Most people click the "today's posts" - I know I do and I rarely even notice what forum it is in, except if it's particular to dry food I don't usually open the thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by Donna Little View Post
    Page 23 of the "What To Do When Your Dog Attempts Suicide book":
    "When your small dog swallows a deer carcass whole, first try prying the mouth open widely and insert tongs down their throat to grab Bambi. If that fails, insert the vacuum hose and turn on, being careful not to suck the stomach out also. This should remove the offending meal quickly and with no lasting side effects."


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    both started raw April, 2011

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